I think the Founding Fathers were Smart / Intelligent.
Age 83, NYC, year 1987
JOSEPH CAMPBELL: That was out entirely. And that's why they rejected the idea of the Fall, too. All men are competent to know the mind of God. There is no revelation special to any people.
BILL MOYERS: I can see how, from your years of scholarship and deep immersion in these mythological symbols, you would read the Great Seal that way. But wouldn't it have been surprising to most of those men who were deists, as you say, to discover these mythological connotations about their effort to build a new country?
CAMPBELL: Well, why did they use them?
MOYERS: Aren't a lot of these Masonic symbols?
CAMPBELL: They are Masonic signs, and the meaning of the Pythagorean tetrakys has been known for centuries. The information would have been found in Thomas Jefferson's library. These were, after all, learned men. The eighteenth-century Enlightenment was a world of learned gentlemen. We haven't had men of that quality in politics very much. It's an enormous good fortune for our nation that that cluster of gentlemen had the power and were in a position to influence events at that time.
MOYERS: What explains the relationship between these symbols and the Masons, and the fact that so many of these founding fathers belonged to the Masonic order? Is the Masonic order an expression somehow of mythological thinking?
CAMPBELL: Yes, I think it is. This is a scholarly attempt to reconstruct an order of initiation that would result in spiritual revelation. These founding fathers who were Masons actually studied what they could of Egyptian lore. In Egypt, the pyramid represents the primordial hillock. After the annual flood of the Nile begins to sink down, the first hillock is symbolic of the reborn world. That's what this seal represents.
MOYERS: You sometimes confound me with the seeming contradiction at the heart of your own belief system. On the one hand, you praise these men who were inspirers and creatures of the Age of Reason, and on the other hand, you salute Luke Skywalker in Star Wars for that moment when he says, "Turn off the computer and trust your feelings." How do you reconcile the role of science, which is reason, with the role of faith, which is religion?
CAMPBELL: No, no, you have to distinguish between reason and thinking.
MOYERS: Distinguish between reason and thinking? If I think, am I not reasoning things out?
CAMPBELL: Yes, your reason is one kind of thinking. But thinking things out isn't necessarily reason in this sense. Figuring out how you can break through a wall is not reason. The mouse who figures out, after it bumps its nose here, that perhaps he can get around there, is figuring something out the way we figure things out. But that's not reason. Reason has to do with finding the ground of being and the fundamental structuring of order of the universe.
NYU Manhattan.
ToDo: locate quote about debates of old / hours. Founding Fathers
Even in 1776, slavery / Native Americans
Has history since year 1776 not proven the translation problems?
Buddhist Vietnam self-burning monks?
Arab Spring December 2010 burning produce vendor, youth?
Korean war, USA? Mash 4 0 7 7 super-fiction monomyth confrontation?
February 2014 Russia attacking Ukraine?
Malala Swat Valley Internet blogging medium vs. Taliban Quran Mosque medium January 2009? Nonficiton vs. Quran science fiction?
IT'S HARD
Year 1982, before Malala. "Any kid" lyrics
My year 1982, age 13, teachers in Fort Wayne, Indiana. - Stephen Alfred Gutknecht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijjTQQ0dMoE
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That's the pont of this.
"Deal me another hand lord, this one is very hard!!!!"
So Hard.
Slavery, hate. The 1954 Equation. February 28, 1954. Out-group hate equation!!!
I'm not appologizing for humanity. I'm saying we did not KNOW until February 28, 1954. Until we had airporrts and Titanic shipwrecks of engine power resolved. When the Public Library of TWO WORLD WARS came togehter in early year 1954. That is what I'm saying. We All, our smartest inclusve, are stupid. Enstine had to recall the nuclear bomb, letters to the White House about his failure to see the outcomes. Dated August 2, 1939. "Had I known that the Germans would not succeed in producing an atomic bomb, I would have never lifted a finger"
IT IS FUCKING HARD! Ask FUCKING MALALA in Swat Valley Pakistan January 2009 BLOGS!!!!
The monomyth meme pattern breakout is HARD, the jail break of the monomyth is HARD!!!!!
Slavery, gender voting rights, native American Navajo Windtalkers translation!!!!! Ask the Germans and Japanese about the Windtalker codes!
IT IS FUCKING HARD. Pale Blue Dot Sagan HARD!